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mantra-kmp/docs/mls-skipped-keys.md
Kgothatso Ngako 0be31803f2 docs: record phase 10, and the deferred decision it carries out
`docs/subgroups.md` was written as ten phases of reasoning kept in the order they
were argued, and phase 4 spent forty lines on why the child's ceremony was *not*
held in the parent's Marmot room -- explicitly so the decision would not be
re-litigated without its price attached. That section is now a shopping list that
has been carried out, so it keeps its argument and gains a pointer forward, and
the three costs it enumerated are checked off one by one in a new phase 10.

The parts of the note that state the old arrangement as present-tense fact are
updated rather than annotated: the three-ceremonies table now reads one room,
three ceremonies, two quorums, and says the thing that needs saying twice -- an
MLS message reaches the whole tree, so a ceremony in the parent's room has to name
who it is with.

Phase 10 itself is written the way the others are, around what fails silently:

- `DkgSession.chatRoomId` stopped identifying a ceremony, and the place that
  matters is `completedKey`'s last fallback, which every member welcomed after a
  group's own ceremony lands on;
- `signingPath` had to admit a Marmot room, which widens the one function whose
  contract is that a path never comes off a proposal;
- the p-tags had to stay on both transports, which is the opposite of what
  `FrostSigningManager` correctly does.

The two sections that argued the old collision -- "The collision this buys" and
"Why a subgroup cannot be the whole group was withdrawn" -- keep their reasoning
and gain the end of it: `(room, parent)` stopped telling two subgroups of one
parent apart, so the lookup moved to `(room, parent, admins)`, and the permanent
half of the refusal disappeared with the derived room. The limitation and the
appendix entry are struck through rather than deleted, since what they were
weighing is why the phase exists.

`docs/shared-key-ceremony.md` no longer says a ceremony runs over a NIP-17 chat.
The participant set is the proposal's p-tags on both transports, and that
distinction is the whole reason it is stated that way rather than as "the group".

`docs/mls-skipped-keys.md` keeps `proposeRitual` in its table of reliable
triggers and now says what changed about it: it reached that table on gift wraps,
where the bug does not apply, and a subgroup's ceremony now rides group events. It
is the entry with the worst consequence -- a ChillDKG cannot finish until every
participant takes part, so one lost round-1 message stalls it permanently for
everybody rather than costing one member a line of chat. That is the thing the
quartz fix in that note is now load-bearing for.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
2026-09-09 16:28:28 +02:00

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Messages are lost when two arrive out of order

A group event that a relay hands back a moment late is dropped and cannot be recovered. Two messages published in the same second reliably lose one of them.

This is a conformance gap in quartz's MLS implementation, not in this app. What this app can do about it from outside the library is partial, and is described at the end.

Symptom

The receiver stores the kind:445 group event and produces nothing from it. No inner event, no chat line, no error the user sees. MarmotGroupEvent is written before the message is decrypted, so the row survives while everything downstream of it silently does not:

receiver, room 6d8ec3ad ("Frosty (#admins)")

  20:36:55  kind 9   chat message      decrypted, applied
  20:37:34  kind 30321  nonce          decrypted, applied
  20:37:34  kind 30320  proposal       group event stored, no inner event

Both 20:37:34 events were published by the same sender in the same proposeSigning call. Every message that arrived on its own decrypted fine; the back-to-back pair lost exactly one.

Downstream the failure reads as something else entirely. In the case above a FROST signing session never started on the receiver, because the proposal that opens one never arrived — leaving a nonce filed against a session that will never exist. An earlier instance of the same bug dropped a dialect, and the artifact referencing it then failed a foreign key and rolled back its whole transaction.

Cause

MLS is specified to tolerate out-of-order delivery inside an epoch. RFC 9420 §9.1: a receiver that gets generation N+1 before N derives the intermediate keys and keeps them, so the older message can still be read when it turns up.

Quartz does implement this. SecretTree caches them:

// SecretTree.kt
private val skippedKeys = mutableMapOf<Pair<Int, Int>, KeyNonceGeneration>()

fun applicationKeyNonceForGeneration(leafIndex: Int, generation: Int): KeyNonceGeneration {
    val cachedKey = skippedKeys.remove(Pair(leafIndex, generation))
    if (cachedKey != null) { /* ...replay check... */ return cachedKey }

    val state = getOrInitSender(leafIndex)
    require(generation >= state.applicationGeneration) {
        "Generation $generation already consumed (current: ${state.applicationGeneration})"
    }
    ...
}

The gap is that the cache is never persisted:

// SecretTree.kt
fun exportSenderStates(): Map<Int, SenderRatchetState> = senderState.toMap()

fun importSenderStates(states: Map<Int, SenderRatchetState>) {
    senderState.putAll(states)
}

exportSenderStates() returns the ratchet positions only. MlsGroup.saveState() calls it (senderRatchetStates = secretTree.exportSenderStates()) and MlsGroup.restore() calls importSenderStates. So skippedKeys exists only in one SecretTree instance's memory.

That would be harmless if the group instance outlived the messages. It does not: NostrDao rebuilds it from stored state for every inbound event and saves it back afterwards. So the sequence is

  1. generation 1 arrives, ratchet advances 0 → 2, generation 0's key goes into skippedKeys
  2. saveState()skippedKeys is dropped on the floor
  3. generation 0 arrives, a fresh tree is restored with applicationGeneration = 2, the cache is empty, require fails
  4. the exception is swallowed, the event yields no ApplicationMessage

Step 3 is terminal. The key is derived from a ratchet that has moved past it and cannot be recovered, and nothing asks the sender to resend.

Verified against the published artifact rather than a checkout: quartz-1.14.0-sources.jar, commonMain/com/vitorpamplona/quartz/marmot/mls/schedule/SecretTree.kt.

Why it is not an edge case here

Nostr relays make no ordering guarantee at all, and negentropy reconciliation hands back a room's backlog in whatever order it likes. Any two messages close enough together can swap.

Several flows publish in bursts, and each of them is a reliable trigger:

flow messages in one pass
FrostSigningManager.proposeSigning proposal, then the proposer's nonce
ChillDkgRitualManager.proposeRitual proposal, then the host key
MantraDao.addArtifact the artifact, then its first version
MantraDao.addChapter the chapter, then one per paragraph chunk

addChapter is the worst of these: a chapter with twenty paragraphs publishes twenty-one events at once, and only the ones that happen to arrive in ascending generation order survive.

proposeRitual is the one with the worst consequence. It reached this table on gift wraps, where the bug does not apply; since docs/subgroups.md Phase 10 a subgroup's ceremony rides group events, and a ChillDKG cannot finish until every participant has taken part — so one lost round-1 message stalls it permanently for everybody, rather than costing one member a line of chat.

The fix, in quartz

Carry the skipped keys through saveState/restore alongside the ratchet positions.

1. Export and import them. In SecretTree:

fun exportSkippedKeys(): Map<Pair<Int, Int>, KeyNonceGeneration> = skippedKeys.toMap()

fun importSkippedKeys(keys: Map<Pair<Int, Int>, KeyNonceGeneration>) {
    skippedKeys.putAll(keys)
}

MAX_SKIPPED_KEYS already bounds the map, so the serialised size is bounded by the same constant and needs no separate cap.

2. Put them in the group state. MlsGroup.saveState() already writes senderRatchetStates = secretTree.exportSenderStates(); add a sibling field, and have restore() call importSkippedKeys next to its existing importSenderStates.

3. Keep old state readable. The persisted state is a TLS-encoded struct that existing installs already hold, so the new field has to be optional: absent means an empty map, which is exactly the behaviour today. Without that, every device with a stored group is broken by the upgrade.

4. Consumed-generation replay protection. consumedGenerations guards against a replayed message re-using a cached key. It is in-memory too, so it should travel with the skipped keys or the guard weakens across restarts. Worth deciding deliberately rather than by omission.

A test worth having with it: save and restore a group between the two messages of an out-of-order pair, and assert the older one still decrypts. That is the property, and it is invisible to any test that keeps one instance alive.

Getting the change into this build

Quartz is not a local fork. It is com.vitorpamplona.quartz:quartz, pinned in gradle/libs.versions.toml and resolved from mavenCentral; settings.gradle.kts only includeBuilds lightning-kmp-app. Nothing in this repository can change it.

There is a full amethyst clone at ~/Documents/development/nostr/amethyst whose SecretTree.kt was byte-identical to published 1.14.0 when this was written, so the patch itself is a small delta against a known-good base. Landing it means one of:

  • Upstream it. It is a genuine RFC 9420 conformance gap and affects any client that reloads group state per message, which is the ordinary shape for a mobile app. Slowest, and the only option that leaves this repo's build reproducible.
  • Patch the clone and publish to mavenLocal, then add mavenLocal() here and pin the patched version. Fast, but the build then depends on a patched crypto library built from one machine's filesystem.
  • Wire quartz as a composite build, the way lightning-kmp-app is. Same coupling to a path outside the repo, but the source is at least visible.

What this app does in the meantime

MlsGroupCache keeps a room's MlsGroup instance alive between messages instead of rebuilding it from stored state each time, so skippedKeys survives for as long as the process does. The inbound path in NostrDao goes through it.

This covers the case that actually bites — a burst arriving in one sync, decrypted one after another against the same tree — and it is what makes the flows in the table above work.

It is not the fix, and it is worth being precise about what it leaves broken:

  • A restart loses the cache. Messages skipped before the app closed cannot be read after it reopens.
  • Another writer invalidates it. Sending a message advances the sender ratchet and saves the room's state; adding a member does too. The cache reuses its instance only while the stored state is still exactly what it last wrote, and rebuilds otherwise — dropping the skipped keys at that point, exactly as before.
  • Nothing helps a long reorder. A message the relay holds back until after a restart or an outbound send is gone.

The staleness check is what keeps the cache from being worse than no cache: a group that has been overtaken by another writer is never carried on with, so the fallback is always the old behaviour rather than a diverged ratchet.